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Lafarge Nest Neighborhood & More!

Post by gemini » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:25 pm

This thread has been created to help Lafarge nest viewers identify the various locations covered by the camera, on or nearby the Lafarge Cement Plant site, that Pa and Lady perch on while watching and defending their territory.

Covered is the Lafarge site and perching spots included in the cam rotation, the Pandora nest in relation to the Artificial nest as viewed by the camera and the Church Cross the eagles perch on in relation to both the camera view and the Pandora nest,

Also there are maps and pics to show the location of the Lafarge site in relation to eagle nests located in North Vancouver just across Burrard Inlet.


ABBREVIATIONS USED WHEN POSTING IN THE LAFARGE DISCUSSION THREAD (For a more comprehensive and pictorial description of the locations of the abbreviations click HERE).

Note - some of us use the following abbreviations in our posts to describe the different perch points the Lafarge eagle pair use:

AN (Artificial Nest): The AN is a nest on a pole that David Hancock built and installed as backup for the dying tree where the eagles were nesting. The nest tree has since been destroyed in a wind storm; however, the eagles have not used the AN for nesting as yet - but they enjoy perching there, and we're hoping....

SA (Square Arch): We're not quite sure what the proper name is, but this is the structure at the edge of the inlet on the end of a large pipe coming from the Lafarge plant. We don't know if it's used for loading barges with finished product or unloading raw materials, but we sometimes see barges there - and we almost always see lots of birds perched on the top railings of the structure (when the eagles are not present that is!)

DE (Distant Evergreen) & LCE (Left Closer Evergreen): There are two small green spaces located east of the Lafarge plant site. After the VersaCold plant was demolished the green spaces became visible and we could see that the eagles were using two evergreen trees (the DE and LCE) as perch trees. The DE is located in the green space farthest from the camera. The LCE is located in a clump of trees in the green space closest to the camera and to the left of the DE.

**LB (Little Building): Formerly a favorite perch site:
The LB, was probably the roof access for the large VersaCold complex. When we first saw the eagles perched on its roof and before we pulled the cam back for a wider view and saw the huge building underneath, it looked very much like a little building.

**NOTE: The (LB) disappeared with the demolition of the VersaCold plant. The last of it came down on February 24, 2017.


Maps, Google earth shots, photos and some scaps click bigger (click twice for biggest)


Overhead view of Lafarge site:
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Overhead view zoomed in. Note: You can see the Artificial Nest (AN) - it shows up as a black line
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The white building is the Sand Tower. The Camera is mounted on the pole on the roof of the Sand Tower. The pole on the left is the base of the AN. (Photo by KarenB taken in 2012)
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Re: Lafarge Nest Neighborhood & More!

Post by gemini » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:44 pm

Starting at the Artificial nest and moving in a clockwise direction on the map in the post above, some closeups of various perching locations on the Lafarge site.

Artificial Nest (container/truck parking lot behind and to the right)
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Nest tree before and after the nest portion of the trunk broke off (pole to the left and behind the nest is the base of the Artificial Nest.)
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Re: Lafarge Nest Neighborhood & More!

Post by gemini » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:45 pm

Overhead view of the Conveyor Belt and Square Arch in relation to the rest of the Lafarge site.
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Close up of the Square Arch
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View of the conveyor belt leading to the Square Arch
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Re: Lafarge Nest Neighborhood & More!

Post by gemini » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:46 pm

The Versa Cold Storage Complex is located east of and adjacent to the Lafarge Plant site. It is scheduled for demolition.

Little Building - a favorite perching spot (located on the roof of the Versa Cold Storage building)
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Closer view of the Versa Cold Storage complex (North wall). Little building located on the Northeast corner of the upper most roof.
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Information regarding the the demolition of the "LB" (little building on top ot VersaCold cold storage building) - favored perching spot of Lady's and Pa's.

From August 9:
http://www.norlandlimited.com/news/paci ... demolition

From November 2 -
http://blog.versacold.com/a-fascinating ... r-facility

And there's a schedule for the work here:
http://harbourprojectdemolition.com/Fin ... cation.pdf
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Re: Lafarge Nest Neighborhood & More!

Post by gemini » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:47 pm

After the Lafarge nest came down during a wind storm in October of 2014, the Lafarge pair continued to defend their territory. About a month later our HWF members discovered they had moved back to their original nest which they had abandoned in 2007. It is located in a huge evergreen tree on private property on the corner of Kamloops and Pandora streets approximately 7-8 blocks southeast of the Lafarge site.

Location of the Pandora nest in relation to the Lafarge site.
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View of nest tree site (looking south)
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View of the top of the Pandora nest tree as seen from the the same direction as the cam at the Lafarge site.
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Re: Lafarge Nest Neighborhood & More!

Post by gemini » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:48 pm

Map of line of site of the cam looking in the direction of the Pandora nest and St Davids Church (Southeast)
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Details of the cam view looking in the direction of the Pandora Nest and St. David's Church.
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What the cam sees
- Because of the cam's two dimensional viewpoint, it mistakenly "perceives" Our Lady of Sorrows cross in between the nest and St David's cross. However, it is actually located two blocks further east and two blocks south of St. David's.
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Post by gemini » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:49 pm

Front of St. David's Church (as viewed facing north)
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A view of the nest tree from the east side of the church (again looking north)
Pandora nest viewed from St. David's.jpg
Close up of St. David's church cross that Pa and Lady Lafarge love to perch on while defending their territory or keeping an eye out on their nest!
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Post by gemini » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:04 pm

Our Lady of Sorrows church: (Click all pictures 2x for bigger)
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Our lady of Sorrows church cross is located south and east of St Davids church. It is far enough east that the camera’s two dimensional line of site perceives it as if it is north of St Davids when in fact it is actually south east.
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Seen in scaps of the Lafarge pair sitting on the St. David's cross. It is to the left of St. David's church in the scap.
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Post by gemini » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:05 pm

Location of Oxford park from where our ground observers photograph Pa and Lady on the AN in relation to the Lafarge site.
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Oxford Park - Ground observers viewing point
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A view from the park of the old nest tree just after the nest came down in October of 2014.
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Post by gemini » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:07 pm

The Lafarge pair have several neighbours across Burrard Inlet they share the waters with as well as the Hastings pair. This map gives an idea of why Pa and Lady are so vigilant in defending their territory.
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This photo of the Lafarge site was taken in North Vancouver. The vantage point was on a street (approximately one block in distance) behind (north of) the Esplanade Artificial Nest in North Vancouver looking southeast across the Burrard inlet towards the Lafarge site.
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Post by gemini » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:08 pm

Nest Abbreviations

Note - some of us use the following abbreviations in our posts to describe the different perch points the Lafarge eagle pair use:

AN (Artificial Nest): The AN is a nest on a pole that David Hancock built and installed as backup for the dying tree where the eagles were nesting. The nest tree has since been destroyed in a wind storm; however, the eagles have not used the AN for nesting as yet - but they enjoy perching there, and we're hoping....

AN
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SA (Square Arch): We're not quite sure what the proper name is, but this is the structure at the edge of the inlet on the end of a large pipe coming from the Lafarge plant. We don't know if it's used for loading barges with finished product or unloading raw materials, but we sometimes see barges there - and we almost always see lots of birds perched on the top railings of the structure (when the eagles are not present that is!)

SA (at the end of the long pipe)
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Close up of the SA
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Post by gemini » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:09 pm

Nest Abbreviations (cont'd)

**LB (Little Building): The LB, was probably the roof access for the large VersaCold complex. When we first saw the eagles perched on its roof and before we pulled the cam back for a wider view and saw the huge building underneath, it looked very much like a little building. .

**NOTE: This perch site (LB) disappeared with the demolition of the VersaCold plant. The last of it came down on February 24, 2017.


DE (Distant Evergreen) & LCE (Left Closer Evergreen): There are two small green spaces located east of the Lafarge plant site. After the VersaCold plant was demolished the green spaces became visible and we could see that the eagles were using two evergreen trees (the DE and LCE) as perch trees. The DE is located in the green space farthest from the camera. The LCE is located in a clump of trees in the green space closest to the camera and to the left of the DE.

LCE & DE (Click twice for larger panoramic view)
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Post by gemini » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:12 pm

Some firsts:

Caught on cam by yojopro - the first viewed mating

Feb 18, 2016 - 3:58 pm
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First closeup view of Lady's band (enhanced by JudyB)

Feb 19, 2016 - 7:22 am
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Post by gemini » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:16 pm

To record date of first activity observed indicating an egg may be in the nest: (2016 Season)

By: Annemie (offline) on Thursday March 24, 2016 @03:41PM

Hi JudyB, Stim. Mini, Gemini and all friends of these eagles

At 2:53 pm Pa and Lady were sitting on the rim of the Pandora nest looking intensely inside the nest bowl.
Lady made movements that showed that she was moving something around in a very defined area in the nest bowl.
Pa sitting right next to Lady paid close attention to what she was doing.
When Lady was done, she sat down in the nest exactly were she had worked on something and Pa flew off.
That was at 2:57 pm.
Stan and I were wondering whether Lady and Pa have an egg now. :chin:

Ps. Stim, Mini and JudyB thanks for the kind words.



By: Eastvan Girl (offline) on Friday March 25, 2016 @07:38AM

Happy Friday everyone,
Just looked out my window and saw Pa on a west branch of Pandora tree,I didn't think Lady was in the tree, but she was, she was just down in the nest and I couldn't see her very well. Then she got up and I realized she was there. She stood up and moved about a bit and then hunkered back down again. I'll head oner to the nest later and check things out.
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Re: Lafarge Nest Neighborhood & More!

Post by JudyB » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:19 pm

Posted on Saturday April 16, 2016 @09:03AM


Note - I'm putting together some of Lady's identifying characteristics, and when we noticed them; not worrying about keeping things in order yet.

On January 22, 2016, we discovered that Lady has a band on her right leg - http://www.hancockwildlife.org/forum/vi ... 444#845444

Yojopro's s'cap showing it:
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JudyB's s'cap from February 19 (http://www.hancockwildlife.org/forum/vi ... 395#853395)
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On December 18, we noticed that Lady was holding her right wing out from her body - http://www.hancockwildlife.org/forum/vi ... 347#836347; it did not appear to interfere with her ability to fly - and did make it easier to recognize her (s'cap by stim).
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Looking back through the thread, I don't see any comments or pictures of her holding her wing that way before then, and there were a number of pictures that we ID'd as Lady, though I had to go back to December 12 (http://www.hancockwildlife.org/forum/vi ... 796#834796) to find pictures of both adults together.

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Post by JudyB » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:21 pm

Posted on Saturday April 16, 2016 @09:03AM


Lady's identifying characteristics (Cont'd)

Lady's right wing was still sticking out on March 22 (http://www.hancockwildlife.org/forum/vi ... 399#863399), when the cam went offline for a few weeks (s'cap by stim).
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Annemie reported that she noticed that Lady's wing was healing on April 1st, when she saw both eagles on the cross - "Lady's wing was drooping part of the time and part of the time she was holding it up. I have noticed the same thing a couple of days later when I saw her at the nest tree. So I think it took Lady about 2 weeks before she could keep her wing up most or all of the time." (http://www.hancockwildlife.org/forum/vi ... 320#872320)

Pat who lives near the new nest saw Lady's wing sticking out on April 7 (http://www.hancockwildlife.org/forum/vi ... 315#873315)

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